Creative Individuals Podcast

Are you using SOCIAL MEDIA to your advantage?

May 04, 2020 Jake Rainford Season 1 Episode 11
Creative Individuals Podcast
Are you using SOCIAL MEDIA to your advantage?
Show Notes Transcript

In difficult times it can be easy to use social media in a negative way and on our most recent episode we talk about how people are using social media throughout the current pandemic, how it can be used in a positive light, how businesses can move online or start fresh through difficult circumstances and how you can work on your business by using social media as an effective tool. Oh and obviously we've thrown a few stories in there to keep you entertained.

Sometimes it's good to put the phone down and that's exactly what we're doing. We're your hosts Jake and Meg and we're here to talk all things social media, digital and just anything that's trending really. Our aim is to talk about topics that affect the human population in one way or another, whether that's mental health, digital advancements or trending topics. To be perfectly honest we just love a good chat and we're sharing our conversations with you whether you like it or not! Over the course of our podcast we'll be welcoming guests including friends, family and hopefully influential figures. Keep your eyes peeled for our uploads and make sure to subscribe to our channels!
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Speaker 1:

Right. So welcome back to another episode of put the phone down with me and Meg it's week, a week ago. No clue. We're both going a bit insane at the moment. So we thought we'd get a bit of a podcast, but what we need spot alone and go through, have a really good fight. Dropkick, Dropkick, mega halfway through the podcast. But yeah, this, this week we're really going to go over like how people using social media at this current time, like w I mean, people are people using it for the right reasons, wrong reasons. So our aim is to try and give you a bit of value from that side of things, really, and hopefully try and motivate you through these desperate rubbish bloody times. I'm really joke about your book. You've done a bit of research than you and stuff. And

Speaker 2:

do you know what? It's not even research it's. I think one huge factor that I know a lot of people will be, you know, it'll always be in the back of the minds and stuff right now is social media and how, how people are using it. And cause I know myself at the moment I'm using social media as, as an advantage, like you can connect with people and you can see what other people are up to. You can get like isolation ideas, what you can do when you're stuck inside and you're bored or whatever, you can save exercise videos, all sorts. Yeah. But I know all the people who, um, have like deactivate it to social media and stuff like that because they feel guilty because seeing everyone else exercise and are people still working and stuff like this and like, they feel guilty for not doing like the hundred percent everyone else.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I what you mean? It's weird. It's weird. Isn't it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's always been, we've always said we social media stuff. It's like how people perceive it. It's always on a personal level. But I think at the moment, like it's, it's quite obvious to me, especially that within my group of friends and people who like I speak to, like everyone's using it very differently.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. How are you using it at the moment?

Speaker 2:

I just, to my advantage light, I'm just taking inspiration from people. So I know, I mean, it's helped because my cousin's doing the light exercise sessions and stuff. If it weren't for her, I probably wouldn't be doing as much exercise as I am doing. But I follow a lot of girls who like influencers, who put all the videos of their exercises on Instagram. And even before lockdown and stuff, I always, you know, you can, you know, you can save stuff on Instagram. I always save it. So I know I can come back to it if it's like exercises that I think I'm going to enjoy. Um, and it's stuff like that. And then people are baking. So I'm like getting ideas from people.

Speaker 1:

When are you turning into light bulb to Jeremy Oliver at the moment? No, it's my baking cookies were good though. I didn't like him. I mean, to refer up any type of food you put in front of me on the side straight and everyone else likes him. I think I'm better at cooking. I must admit though, everything you've been making recently, I'm just like,

Speaker 2:

yep. Yep. I've got time to do it. I've got the opportunity to do it. I'm like finding new recipes and stuff. So it's like the main thing is when it comes to this is that, you know, in, in times like this, where you're going to feel down as it is, it it's everyone's right to deactivate social media or whatever, but that's also shutting themselves off from other people because social media is, is the only way of communicating at the moment. Our online platforms are the only way, not just social media with like zoom and all that kind of stuff. Um, but I don't know. It just, it just interests me. It's like, when I think about the psychology of people using social media and why like why they use it, how they do it just interests me. Cause I like some of my friends they're on the same level as me. Like, you know, we're very similar, but when it comes to social media, it's we use it in a very different way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Cause I, I always, like I said, I don't know if I've mentioned it in previous podcasts, but anyone who's been putting negative news out about coronavirus, I'm just like follow up just because I'm just not bothered. I know it's bad. All right. Fair enough. I want to get some positive. I want to, I want to get some motivation. Like for me, I always use it use social media to my advantage. I always look at like, what other businesses are doing, getting inspiration from other creators and kind of using it that way. I mean, the, um, the upside, I think for missing this isolation is everyone seems to be getting fit. Like they might not be getting fitter, but they're all exercising at home and there's people I know who don't even go to the gym. I'm still working out at home, all of these possible challenges and all this sort of stuff. So I think there's, I think like that's another positive to look at from, from this sort of thing. But like you mentioned, a lot of people are using that from a negative and thinking, right. Well, he's working at, why am I not? Why am I? Because people are going like going through this isolation different to others. Like my, my emotions have been like all over the show for me, I'm just missing my own, like my own space in terms of like, I love being like locked in my own little room and just working where it's hard to do that with,

Speaker 2:

well, we were living with my parents and stuff at the moment and it's, you know, love him to bits, but it's going to get on top of your, after awhile for adults in the same house for a long period of time, it gets quite a lot. But I think one thing that I definitely think is that I think the longer isolation has been going on, people have been much more aware of their own mental health. And I'm not an expert on this and I'd never speak about it in any professional capacity. But I think that people sat to realize, right, well to get, to get through this and to make sure I don't go on a downward spiral of, of feeling upset and getting anxious about things. I'm going to have to start doing this stuff to build me back up again. I'm going to have to start learning a new hobby are keeping myself fit and doing physical activities. Cause otherwise you're just going to go brand dead Slack.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Cause it, cause it's like an awful lot of people who have businesses as well, who are, aren't really using this time to optimize the business. Like no, no is the time you should be going hundred percent with your online platforms. You, new websites, social media content, you should be smashing contact because now is the time where attention's like through the roof. Everyone's on social media. So you need like, you can never create too much content, no matter what industry you're in, whether you're I always go, I always mentioned her dresser about her dresser, bloody fitness expert. Um, God nausea into plants. These plants aren't the best different. These are just visual. Anyway. They don't tell him that we water. We water them every day. Megan, these are full nice, good plants. Cause everyone knows that I'm applying killer. No, no. Yo I could Demento you, anytime you come past the plant, just like crumbles up, making the demand I made. I bought your roses for Valentine's day once and you made a moldy. Don't even know that was possible. Like within a couple of days, time. Cause I don't know what happened there. The mentor. That's what it is. So going back, going back to the optimizing your business like that, for me, like that's what we've been doing. And again, it's easiest, easy for us to say this because we are online experts. We know what we're doing with digital business. We know what we're doing. We're like making websites and stuff, but I'm, I wasn't the most intelligent book in through school. And I managed to sit down and look, look at articles, watch tutorials on websites myself. So there is other people that like, there's no doubt you can do that yourself. You've just got to put the time in. If you, if you don't have the time, come to creative individuals and we'll meet your nice spanking new website anyways, not a blog book. It's still for me. I just think people are just making a bit, some excuses were just using your initiative and this is the time we should be thinking of like, right. How can I move my business online? Definitely to just optimize this time, because this is for us. We've got a lot of time to work on our internal processes now. And we never normally have that. So it's weird because I'm kind of enjoying this isolation period because it's not as like full on with work, but at the same time it's driving me mad because I'm not working all the time because I was usually going here there, and everywhere every day for me was different. I was filming one day I was at a meeting. You know what I mean? I'm all, I'm all over the shore. Traveling. Now I'm deciding the dining room. It's kind of getting to me a bit, but at the same time I'm enjoying it because I'm getting to work on personal stuff.

Speaker 2:

Definitely. It's going to get you a bit, but the thing gaze, imagine how much more it would be getting to you. If you didn't put the in to keep creating individuals running as it is,

Speaker 1:

I'd be annoyed. If, if we just kind of, I mean, some people have been put on this forlorn scheme, which, which doesn't, you can't work on anything anyways, but for like self employed people, this is now the time where you should be to working on your own stuff or creating a new business. Like when we've got friends that have like, we'll go off, we'll give her a plug fizzy fix. You need some sweets contact her because um, I mean we've prepped at them pretty quick, which is not, not a good thing. I'm going to be sending Vicky an invoice from a bloody dentist offices over with one keel or bag of sweets. But if you think about it, it's smart because everyone's like Saturday home, the board, what did they do on the board to eat the shit? So they want sweets. So vacate. All right, well there's obviously demand. So she gets there. You got boom done straight away. Another one of our friends, again, we'll give her another plug. Abby. I saw she shot pour something on him on Facebook or Instagram or whatever. It was like a one to one, um, makeup tutorials for me, I thought fucking what a clever idea.

Speaker 2:

Because the thing is, is that like in a time like this, Abby can't go out and do people's makeup. She can't do this. Like one-to-one kind of thing. So she's she saw in a creative way and thought, right. Well, how else can I do it? And even if she doesn't like charge people, for example, she's still engaging with all the current clients and new clients as well. So it's like, even if you can't charge people for staff, keep them engaged.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Because, well, that's the thing because when they come out the backend of this, you've built that audience. So even if it's only five to six followers, it's still five to six more clients potential at the end of this. So yeah, I mean, for me, I think this is just going to be, this is just going to prove people's creativity and the people that complain about the current situation, rather than us doing something over the ones that at the end of it will fail. I think they know is the time to get shit and got going really is

Speaker 2:

it's it's it's a weird one. Isn't it? Because it's very, it can be very easy to look at this on negative level. Cause it is awful. What's happening

Speaker 1:

and everything around it. Everyone's driving negativity all the time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And everything. When you go on Facebook and stuff, bot, if you can just block all that out and just work on something again, even, even if you know you weren't self-employed before this happened, if you've got an idea why not execute it? You've got the time to,

Speaker 1:

you got loads of time. Absolutely. Loads of time. It's been difficult even more so recently because it's been so Sonic. So everyone's just pumped, piss on her, which is bull it's like for me, I've been sat in the garden working and it's been brilliant. I've really enjoyed it. Like everyone I speak to it's just seems like they look like they've been on holiday at the time for me. What did my dad call? You have a desk. Like you're like a squash. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Then Sweetser squashes things on one side and wow.

Speaker 1:

So you hung over that day when you're yes. So Meg is another one of these people who's been drinking at the weekends. No.

Speaker 2:

How are the weekends I have on a Thursday and then Friday. Saturday. Yeah. That's it.

Speaker 1:

[inaudible] a lot of beer Meg, but it's, it's a slippery slope to be fair. You you've been, we've been eating. The thing is with was we make really healthy meals all the way through the day. And then it comes to night when we put like a series on a film on, and then we just eat a lot of shit

Speaker 2:

last night. I was like, right. Should we have watermelon? Our pancakes more like pancakes.

Speaker 1:

It was not even, I wasn't even hungry, but we'll look at each of them like yeah, midnight snack. Yeah. That's what, this is little, little cookie doing. I keep saying, I keep fucking fitness videos off and I'm like, Oh, I have a little cookie pouch. But yeah, I think, I think the main thing is, is, is just, just get creative with your business no matter what kind of business you are, whether you are selling plants or hairdresser selling trainers, you should always be marketing first, then your product. Because if you understand the market and understand what the demand is like, everyone's got a really good product, but it's, if no one knows about it, then it's fucking pointless. So nobody's the time to work out. Let's let's give them a few examples of like what people can be doing. So let's, I'm going to put you under the spotlight. So if, if I'm a plant expert, I'm selling plants, what should I be doing?

Speaker 2:

You could be giving tips and tricks on how best to water you put me on the spot. Right? So no rat, I'm taking that back. I'm going to start from another point of view that was just stupid and dark and all giggly now. Um, so initially these get online in online platforms. If you don't already have an online platform, get one. And then I think if you're struggling with that, if you're struggling with the sales and stuff like that, because people might not see it as a necessity.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, they might lost what I'm saying, but I think you might be about, I might be answering your question, but carry on. So basically like there might not be a demand. No, but when everything starts to chill out, you've already got this all singing and dancing platform that then people will then go and buy, buy stuff, buy your pumps.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, that's what I was getting too. But it was a bit in between that. I wanted to say, cause I think this is quite cute actually. But if, if you've got like certain plants, which are like, cause obviously every different plant is, is different with CAFTA. They should do like little videos of like how best to like when, to what are them, where to put them, what plants go well with war and like, Oh, and this is a really good one actually, because I'm struggling with this at the moment is for people who are selling like plants and flowers and stuff, um, target brides to be because I'm doing all my own flower arrangements while I want to. And I don't know what flowers go with, what the, what greenery goes to

Speaker 1:

like the thing is, and I, cause I was saying this to my sister about, um, like doing online tutorials for her and stuff like that, like how to cut your on her at home, that sort of stuff. Which then there's an argument we're saying, yeah, but they'll not come to me to get the haircut. But if I wanted to find out that information, there's thousands of people online doing it. Like I've got like a list of videos that I want to make that will basically be given you a lot value. Like what gear to get from makeup podcast. What gear do you need to make a video to make a website? There's loads of things. And a lot of people might be saying, I might be putting myself at work, but someone could type that in on the internet and that information's there. So yeah, for me, I think just the main thing is just, just to just keep creating.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I think at that point when it actually comes to it, most people have other things on the plate, so they can't be bothered with the stuff that they're not experts in. So they'd come back to you anywhere. Cause I, for example, am I, I might have considered it, but I'm not going to end up doing it, like trimming the ends of my hair. But then I come out a lot down and I never think, Oh, I'm going to trim the ends of my own hair. I still go back to a hairdresser

Speaker 1:

and it's slightly safer. I don't know. It's weird. It's it is a, is it is a weird one because I can understand where people are coming from. Like they don't want to lose out on work, but at the same time, people can do the research. You can and you can do it yourself. But that's what I would do. If I was, if I was a plant expert, I'd be creating a website, well, improving the website to sell the plants. I'd be creating, sell little videos on how to water them, like how to make them live longer, where to put them in there in your house, how to grow plants from, from a seed to fucking Palm tree or whatever it is. I'm ready to reuse this, this loads of like little things to around that surround your, your website. It just all drives links, links to your website, blog posts. They do like not a lot of people do blogs these days. And they are so important for your website for SEO point of view. But like even just putting that little photographs and little captions of little tips of the day and stuff like that, there's loads of stuff you can put out. We don't put out enough. You can never put out too much content. The only problem with us is with being a marketing agency. No one gives a shit about marketing marketing agency. But if you're selling sweets or plants, someone does it. There's a niche too. And the Trump people have got an interest to like your people come for it. Like people come to you in

Speaker 2:

Atlanta and we've seen that light. We've seen, we've seen certain people like thrive through there. And I think it's nice to see that because it's it I saw straight away about like, obviously I thought that was some of the business and stuff, but like what my friends would been going through and all the self employed people and other people who, you know, there's every chance they could lose a job. Um, so when, when people are able to flip that into a positive, especially closest friends and family, it's nice to see that. Um,

Speaker 1:

I'm just worried about all that, the pubs and stuff me there. I think that'll make a bit of a dent more than anything else,

Speaker 2:

but they don't lie. I worry about that because obviously like my own calls got a pub and I tried to think, you know, I don't know if this is true or not, but like how much beer you might have to wear some stuff like that and how much it could be actually losing out on, you know, wasted ovaries.

Speaker 1:

But he would even saw like even the pubs have been making initiative initiative, whereas still selling beer because they've got like takeaway beers, the selling tags pit, like I know, I know one of the pubs that locally, they went to people's houses, installing beer pumps. Yeah. And I think that's just the clerk. Like that's where you start seeing people's like real, real creativity comes into the business. And I don't think enough people are doing that.

Speaker 2:

All it takes is just to sit there and brainstorm something

Speaker 1:

a hundred percent. But not even people do that. So get off your bloody ass, start thinking, start creating and started doing, Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Don't know no bottoms. We need to stay friends with them.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Subscribe. Watch watches talk shit for another half an hour.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I don't know. I think it's, it's important. I think if you, if you think kid negatively about social media or online platforms or anything, change your mindset. You know, if you can, if you think that you can't keep your business running now, you can't start something new or whatever change mindset, because otherwise you're just going to come out of this so much worse. Definitely.

Speaker 1:

There's that's the thing like the people who are listening to this who were, who were still healthy and sick, safe tick take the time to work on yourself because there's a lot of people going out in the world now he's suffering from all this and it could be a lot worse, better. So stay how fish keep fucking clean your arms and stuff. And dr. Jake and work in your own business because I know what'll happen. All these people who just sat there in the gardens, not doing anything, I'll just chilling out when this all ends up. But to the, when, when all this ends, whenever that is, um, all the competitors that have been using this time to work on their own business, they'll be complaining that they'll, there'll be losing loads of work because there's yeah, exactly. There could be another creative individuals in the area that opens the battle website about a team. So you just need to don't don't relax when you're at a talk because there's always someone chasing you because that was always when we were coming up and it just gives you a kick up the ass, but don't let, let that happen. Just start working on yourself, start working on your businesses. But there's loads of things you can do website, sorry, YouTube channels do YouTube, I think is a main one because I'd love to start like blogging and stuff like that. But Audi do it. Megan, I keep talking and then you give me the work to do. And it's like, Oh yeah, that's true. But I think, I think no we've gotten, you've got a new laptop. Yeah. Um, no excuses. There's lots of, we need to see a blog. What would you, what would you blog about?

Speaker 2:

Well, I wanted to do a bloody office flog, but it was only me and you in once or twice a week. So it's not doing that. I don't know. I don't know whether to do like, like, um, weeks in the life of a business in isolation of summit. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I think you'd be good at it. I think you've like your double wheel, a lot of things of like on social media where like posting your workouts and stuff. I think you just need to bring that all into one. I think so. I don't, there's no name for it. It's just the thing that you do

Speaker 2:

because I'm not, I sound really mean to myself now. I'm not interested enough to do on about me. No, it's more, it would be more probably focused around the business, but it's just, it's just a way in which I do it. Like, so don't want to do it where it's only focusing on people who care about the business, focus on people who want to want to see your stuff like that. Do you know what I mean? So

Speaker 1:

yeah, but no, one's going to see yours other you're just going to make just, I think, I think if you do it just, just twin, could you enjoy it similar to this podcast know right. When we first did this one, if anything, just learning, learning for ourselves, getting that in front of the cameras. Um, and um, we did the first one. We loved it. So it was like, right. Let's do another one. I think it's the same thing. I think you just have to create something that you enjoy rather than what would people be interested in. It's hard though. Cause like we've not got a proper and flogged camera at the moment. Really. We will be able to work. We've got a camera. So I can't, it's not really an excuse for form is a good enough. Mine's not though my video on my phone is rubbish. Yeah. I think, and I think I'm making excuses. I'm like that though. Like hypocritical when it comes to stuff for me though, like I'm the same exact same. I'm like I need the best equipment. Like we started this podcast in my grandma's kitchen with a black backdrop. I know we're looking at this. You have to just go like step by step. So just start, just start doing it slightly. I just always worry that people aren't interested in or if they're not, cause I'm not worried about this. Like this podcast. I'm like, I love doing it. So I'm like, if people don't want to watch it while I'm doing it, does that work? So that's the, that's the drive to do the same thing. You need to do the same thing as keep, keep cracking on, but just do it, just do it because if you don't another Meghan Fonzworth comment and then making better videos on you, she becomes a millionaire and you're like, Jesus, bloody Christ. No, I'll find her. And I'll I won't kill her. I want to save a murder. Um, no, but I think, I think that's the thing. I think the most, the most important thing to take away from this podcast is just change the way you look at social media. Take this time to work on yourself. Whether it's an Envoy log, setting up a plant business, selling artificial plants. You want to set up a plant. This land, there's a plant there in this plant. Have you ever seen that podcast between two, two ferns? The guy of'em hang over between two phones? No, no phones. I'm sure it is pretty sure a Fern is a plant. I'm pretty sure it's between three arrows between two phones. No, not the podcast. He has sat in between tune for not next one phone. It's a podcast, but that's what it feels like anyways. Why don't we get onto that anyways? What was the reason? Talk about plants. I think. Yeah. I just think, I dunno. It's a weird, weird bloody time. I think the thing is, and I know it for myself. If I didn't have creative individuals now and I wasn't doing the work that I'm doing, I would be a hundred percent. Stir-crazy crazy right now. Yeah. If it weren't for me, but like every morning in the morning, in the morning I'm was like life. I'm not a morning person, but at 12 o'clock at night, I'm just like, Oh you were asleep. I go to sleep. No, I think, yeah, we just need people just need to be happy. Don't worry. Be happy. And that's why you kept putting that on before. And it was really, I'm trying to enlighten them getting people's people's first stupid songs on it. It's very annoying. Oh, you've thrown me off. And what was going to say, God damn that I'm the best mom friend in the world. He definitely wasn't there do a vlog about me, Meg. No, I'd like to do more straight up. No, the tripping I'd like to do more about the wedding, but I can't do much about the wedding in general at the moment. Yeah. Just keep talking. I'm listening. I'm not messing around. Just making sure this is still recording. Yeah. I don't think there's, I don't think there's enough factor going on with the wedding at the moment. So we've had to postpone a lot of things. Yeah. Cause that's another one in it as well with the weddings. I feel sorry. For a lot of people who have got weddings this year would be freaking

Speaker 2:

out if I were getting married this year. Yeah. Cause I think like, and I think I said, Oh, I'll put it on Instagram or something. I freaked out just because I had to change the timeline.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. But you're a, you are a weirdo. When it comes to weddings,

Speaker 2:

mom said to me the other day she was like, are you sure you want to take on all the responsibility of like planning it all yourself? And I was like,

Speaker 1:

yes. Don't even question me. You are like Monica on steroids. Cause it, cause it's like you're booking things and buying things like little tiny little, I dunno. I dunno what you've been buying recently, but we've got loads of little like guest gadgets and gizmos. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Anything like that. You keep changing.

Speaker 1:

W what we're going with the color scheme we're going with. Cause I'm sure it's changed again.

Speaker 2:

No, I keep wanting to change it. Cause it's a stupid color color. Doesn't exist. You what you're asking for? It's like a soft peach, pink kind of color. There's no name for it. Gray colored. It. Doesn't not me. And the issue is with me is once I've got something in my head, it applies in every sense this in my head,

Speaker 1:

when we go shopping and you know what happens because you go, Oh, I really want this skirt or something. I'm like, right. We've got to, there we go. This skirt. And you've gotten your head. We'll look at every shop in the truffle center, flocking for this skirt that probably didn't exist. And then put it in my head. Cause I'm not a fashion designer. Like you can't just make my, and then I'm like, and then, then when it comes to, so it really makes your office because you just want one item. We try to find these skirts and we're going all these shots. And I'll just look at men's section is, do you spend four hours in the way it is now? And I come out the men's section, like after five seconds with like loads of stuff going, Oh, this is really smart. And then it just makes you more pissed off for the shop. And then until you get like a McDonald's and then you chill out.

Speaker 2:

Well. Yeah, of course. Um, Nando's is meant to be, um, often in backup for delivery. Does it actually get in? Cause they're collection only. Usually aren't there all my try making our own though. Um, do you know, I watch this girl on YouTube and she's gone. Like, I mean, she's quite popular anyway, but she's gone like full on viral. Cause she made her own KFC.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So that's the thing. This Sharon, what she called Sharon Chanel.

Speaker 2:

Oh, with the parrot parrot. She'll make a killing off the back of that. I know people have remit songs about why that's so stupid. Social media is smart. Isn't it? I think if you're creative enough, anything like that? Creative it's like the guy, the guy who was changing light bulb, like stupid filter thing. Oh my God. That is one of my favorite.

Speaker 1:

She's made a Facebook page now with whatever she's called and she's met him. They've made him Facebook, Facebook page. So they were making shitloads of money. So when I saw that video, now, when you making these death videos on Facebook, like that leads to something or it can lead to something. So just tip top videos there. It's only warm and then that's it. Boom done. Um, so, so that's the thing, but if you try to trick me, make a wish or when you're in your armpit, mega God[inaudible] kicked in. Then my idea was like, Hey, Nike's you know that it's calming, but snap your arm and my salmon skin. When you put your foot, chop your arm off, he fucks off. Yeah. It's weird. I mean, you probably realize it would have gone insane a bit, but I dunno. I just feel like every time we do one of these, because cause we are like animated and a bit like trying to make it not boring. Yeah. We come out of these, these, these conversations a lot more positive than I was in a pretty crappy mood before, after doing the account stuff. And I already, now I even asked what's inside and it's a talking, I felt song, but it's like, why does it take the cameras to do this now? Do you know what? I don't think it does because we don't. That's what I'm saying. It's weird. It's a weird thing because I know the whole reason behind this podcast. And it's not that we don't speak to each other, but a lot of people, again, going back to social media, be flicking through social media, not speaking to each other. So maybe the answer, if, if the argument a bit mental start a podcast, do you know friends have done that though? It's like Nikki started these podcasts for starters. And for me I'm like sweet, brilliant. Cause it, cause it's just, you can't create enough content. There's too many people in the world too. So also word I'm thinking of, I do this every flipping episode, it's really annoying, but there's, there's not enough content in the world and there's millions of people to watch it. So I don't know. It's just weird because every time we do one of these podcasts, we do feel like a lot better after it, time flies so quick and then we'll come out and we're like, we're lucky because like some people don't have this kind of relationship. I think we probably could do if, if they did put the phones down a bit more and actually spoke to each other, but it's like, it's like every day when, when we're working and obviously sometimes you have bad days at work anywhere and they're even more exaggerated when it's in like, um, a situation like this. So like, we make sure, you know, if either of us is getting in a bit of like a shit mood, we're like, right, let's go out for a walk, you know? Cause I I've. Yeah. But I don't even think it's the walking for me. I think it's the, it's like you're having a proper good chat, getting everything off your chest. And it's like, cause I've noticed that and stuff and it just makes you feel so much better. We don't go out intentionally to have a chat. We just talk and he'd stop it. Not just for like a personal loss for the business and everything. It's just weird. It's a weird, weird thing. Like the human brand. Like I'd love to get someone who knows about Mike. I could brain fucking dude who knows everything, knows everything about brands and don't understand why, why we feel like that. And sometimes, and like why, why going for a walk? Does anything? Because I don't know. It's a strange, cause you're not really exercising. I don't class it as exercise going for a walk is it's definitely exercise. You want to know Negi ferry. It's just ridiculous and pushups from a little finger. I'm going to call you out. Cause we're on the podcast. You're not doing your five K yet. Jesus Christ. I've got a little bit 25 care to actually do it at the moment. No I am. I am. I will do it. I promise bought call you out while I can. I am. He does. Last week has been, has been ridiculous. So I think you'd, you'd feel better from it though, because you, you enjoy running and you don't mind it. I don't mind exercise. Anyways. I've been doing pushups because you could do with it doing a bit more or less clear your head a bit at night. Yeah. I sh I need to go for it. We're not like 11 o'clock. You're not that late. I do because it was build as flooding me out and then I can just go to sleep. Yeah. Was it 11 o'clock at night? I noticed like in the bedroom. No, I think we are, we do definitely need to do something because I have in the morning. So for me, I just, I wake up and I don't know why. I don't know if I'm just like exhausted my brain while I'm sleeping. I don't always something Schubert want to wake up. I'm like, I feel exhausted. Copy. Subconsciously just constantly like thinking about stuff overnight as well. And you don't realize it. You probably wake up a lot. That's what I'm saying. You probably waking up. Do you know what you should do? You should do that. Sleep tracker and track your sleep and see that's probably worrying because he'd be like this guys doesn't sleep at all. You should try it though. What does it do that? Does it just like tracking your heartbeat when you're asleep? I'd imagine my heartbeat playing like a tune or something. You've had done that as well. What's up dude, doctors like doctors, like fucking dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. Didn't lie. My heart beat. Just doing a play in the dark. Cause I just, yeah, that's been stuck in my head for a bit, but I don't know. I'm sure I've got some fucking area HDS something I must do, but I'm weird though. Shit ADHD, because in the mornings I'm just like, don't speak to me. It's weird because you're the opposite. You're like, so you're just like buzzing in the morning. That's what I said before. I was like, Oh, we should have filmed in the morning, but I'm actually glad we film now because it's lifted my mood and I'll be in a good, well, that's what I'm saying in the mornings. Like at my, I can't speak to of the time. I'm just like, yeah. Where you, when you start to slob, do a podcast. Pause in Gore. Yeah. So tonight awful up, jogging away, getting shit done. Yeah, we are chatting shit. But yeah, let's just conclude this anyways, because I feel like we went off a bit when chatting rubbish again, as I normally do my, my main thing for businesses and people at the, at the moment, listen to this, just take this time to work on yourselves and work on your own business. Don't make an excuse and or don't I don't know to you. Do you do know how to do it? There's loads of information out on the internet. Even if, even if the stuff that, like you said about making a website that I'm not necessarily going to make money from. Just ask the question and I'll happily help. I'll probably regret saying that when about a thousand people going, Hey, jr. But the reason was Lord, there's lots of platforms. Like I hate using it, but Wix probably know not.news, which cause it's a nightmare, but like Squarespace, WordPress I'd highly recommend using WordPress because it is easy enough to do something top. Yeah. So like I know you have no background in tech or anything like that. So I mean it's different. Cause you've got me at the side of me, but, but I learned all this from online anyways. So no one's got an excuse that you need to be making YouTube videos, Instagram content, Def tick tops, all that is, is giving someone value that could like, for example, you make a deaf Tech-Talk they go put your heart's a funny video. They might want to buy a plant. You've got lots of lead. So it's that you just, just keep creating content and it'll be all right, basically. And plus it'll keep you, keep you occupied. Just do it, just do it. So I need to go and do some running. Yeah. I'm going to go and eat some chocolate. No, y'all gonna, y'all gonna make a video. I'll go and do, um, I might actually do it. I'm actually go for that run tonight. But the thing is with me though, cause I know it's only five K I'm not really far. It's got me on a start running. I'm like a running fool. I'll just keep, I'll keep running and running and jet mega blocks make jet Ray. I'm like erm, Mitt Lake district, Meg, keep running. I've got an idea. Why don't you run home from here? I can't remember. Well, I can, I can probably run completely fucked my last ones up and I want to kind of preserve these ones, but I think rumbling again, but yeah, let's go. Let's get shit done. Stay positive, stay safe, work on yourselves, work on your businesses or your business or start up a new business. Just do your market research. Look at there's a demand for, and just be that person to supply it. Just smash the smash life. Right. Meg, what time are we on? But you finding so far, right? So, um, yeah, it's been another episode of put the phone down. I hope you get a bit of value from this. Um, but make sure to like subscribe and follows on Spotify, iTunes. We're trying to get onto, um, Alexa at the moment. I think, I think we're, we are on it. I just don't know what you have to say or rank to get to get on there, but we're working on it. Um, but yeah, I have enjoyed this episode of put the phone down, stay surf. And if you do have any questions about anything, anything digital, we don't want to get random questions. Just make sure to drop us a message or an email and we'll get back to you soon. Stay safe, stay tropical piso.